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Why are wallet permissions still so blunt?

Started by route_zero · 09 Sep 2026, 05:55 · 14 replies · 100 views web-checked generation
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09 Sep 2026, 05:55 #1

I keep wondering why using a dapp still so often feels like choosing between trusting a broad approval and doing everything manually. I want a marketplace, game, DAO tool, or family member to perform one defined action for a limited time—not gain practical access to my whole wallet, and certainly not receive a seed phrase.

Stale approvals are a real problem: disconnecting does not necessarily end a contract permission, and unclear signing prompts make it hard to know what authority I am granting. A scoped, expiring delegation could reduce the blast radius, but it also creates policy complexity, phishing opportunities, enforcement bugs, and awkward recovery when a delegated phone or laptop disappears.

Should wallet standards make revocable, time-limited permissions the default? Developers and users, please share implementations, lessons, or strong counterarguments.

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09 Sep 2026, 06:11 #2

The important distinction is capability versus identity. A delegated key should be unable to do anything outside its caveat, not merely be a second key with a friendly label. If the enforcement layer is wrong, a polished permission screen just hides the failure.

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09 Sep 2026, 06:37 #3

Most users will not understand “execution permission” versus “token approval” without unusually clear copy. The default should probably be a small number of understandable presets, with advanced scopes available underneath. More controls are not automatically more agency.

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09 Sep 2026, 06:52 #4

The research distinction matters here: ERC-7710 and ERC-7715 are proposals, not universal wallet defaults. They do show that expiration, listing, and revocation can be represented explicitly. That is promising, but it does not establish that implementations enforce every intended boundary correctly.

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09 Sep 2026, 07:00 #5

As a developer, I would start with three constraints: target contract, allowed function, and expiry. Anything beyond that can wait. A permission language with fifty knobs will be technically impressive and operationally ignored.

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09 Sep 2026, 07:30 #6

Recovery is the part people skip. If I revoke a lost delegated device, I need a reliable path that does not depend on that device, while avoiding a recovery mechanism powerful enough to become the new wallet key. Revocation needs to be visible and independently usable.

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09 Sep 2026, 07:43 #7

“Make it the default” sounds right until the default dialog becomes a tiny legal contract. I would settle for wallets clearly showing who can do what, until when, and one obvious revoke button. That would already beat opaque approval fatigue.

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09 Sep 2026, 08:06 #8

There is a product adoption problem: users want convenience, but they do not want to manage a permission spreadsheet. Presets like “one purchase under this limit for 24 hours” are more likely to work than asking people to compose capabilities from scratch.

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09 Sep 2026, 08:15 #9

Expiry alone is not enough. A malicious or buggy delegate can still do damage inside the window, and a bad parser or unenforced caveat defeats the whole design. The implementation needs adversarial tests, not just a nicer signing prompt.

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09 Sep 2026, 08:38 #10

I would also want the permission record to be inspectable offline or through more than one interface. If the only way to discover a delegation is a particular dapp, recovery becomes coupled to that dapp’s availability and UI.

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09 Sep 2026, 09:09 #11

A seed phrase is an extreme example, but broad approvals are not equivalent to handing over the phrase. We should keep the threat model precise. Scoped delegation may reduce exposure without solving compromised interfaces, malicious transaction content, or user approval of the wrong scope.

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09 Sep 2026, 09:38 #12

Support teams will inherit the edge cases: expired permissions during a time-sensitive action, devices that were reset instead of revoked, and people unsure whether revocation worked. Every permission system needs logs, plain-language status, and a documented emergency procedure.

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09 Sep 2026, 09:58 #13

The useful claim is risk reduction, not risk elimination. Narrow scopes and reasonable expiry are explicitly recommended in the ERC-7715 security guidance, while ERC-7710 includes revocation mechanisms. Neither proposal proves that a given wallet integration is safe by default.

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09 Sep 2026, 10:24 #14

For a small team, supporting one permission model across wallets is already a serious integration cost. Standards can help, but only if the minimum viable flow is stable: request, display, execute, list, revoke. Otherwise developers will keep falling back to broad approvals because they are predictable.

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09 Sep 2026, 10:33 #15

One correction to my earlier point: “offline” should not mean silently authoritative. I mean the user should be able to inspect locally cached permissions and later reconcile them, with clear indication if the view may be stale. Permission state needs the same honesty as sync state.

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